![]() 01/23/2016 at 10:20 • Filed to: None | ![]() | ![]() |
Salt makes everything rust, from our cars to the roads and other vital shit. So what are some better alternatives?
Installing some heated rods underneath the rpads would be a good idea.
How about spraying rubbing alcohol instead of salt? Freezing point is -128 F, and there are plenty of videos of ice melting alcohol in action. But would it cause any damage if sprayed in a manner or quantity needed to melt the roads and sidewalks?
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Alcohol wouldn’t work.
Salt doesn’t even work as well as imagined. You can freeze salt water.
Keeping the surface just above freezing (35-ish) is sufficient to keep snow from collecting and the water flowing, as long as drains are working.
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Some states use sand. It’s not as corrosive but doesn’t do much to change freezing temperatures...just helps with traction.
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No joke, my football (soccer) team has a bunch of flamethrowers they use to de-ice the area around the stadium on match day.
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Salt or some form of it (like Beet juice and Brine) will always win because of cost.
![]() 01/23/2016 at 10:30 |
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weeeed
![]() 01/23/2016 at 10:33 |
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Either a water-alcohol mix, or be smart and run piping in the concrete which holds a heated water-alcohol mix to keep the surface warm enough to prevent icing.
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If you put enough alcohol on the road to melt ice, you’d create one hell of a fire hazard.
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The truth is, there aren’t really any better alternatives. It’s instructive that many of the countries/states/provinces with the most snow don’t bother. Plow the snow as best you can, use snow tires, and drive with caution.
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Grit.
Oregon uses volcanic rock.
![]() 01/23/2016 at 10:58 |
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But if the roads catch fire, there definitely wouldnt be any problems with snow. Mission accomplished.
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The issue is with cities. Come spring, it clogs up the sewers.
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Beet juice.
http://www.deeproot.com/blog/blog-entr…
![]() 01/23/2016 at 11:54 |
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Nah that's for when you stay in on a snow day.
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This is really the only other option that I see used around here.
![]() 01/23/2016 at 14:03 |
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It comes down to cost and there isn't anything cheaper than salt. It's easy to manufacture, easy to store and the equipment already exists. In a perfect futuristic world a heating element with proper drainage would work but it would take A LOT of energy to power a heating element of that size. Maybe have it solar charge a bank of batteries year round storing it until the winter.
![]() 01/23/2016 at 14:18 |
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Doug Funnie approves!
![]() 01/23/2016 at 14:20 |
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hehehe match day, I see what you did there
![]() 01/23/2016 at 18:43 |
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Yup. And then everyone complains when their basement floods. I think if there was a cost effective solution that was less harmful to roads and vehicles than salt, it would be in use by now.
![]() 01/23/2016 at 20:28 |
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Not to mention all the hobos that would be licking the road.
Wait a minute... I’ll get some matches.